Do you mess w/ scope between distances?

[BurmKiller]

Interestingly the guys at 6mmbr.com have not had nice things to say about the tracking abilities of Leupolds. I have never personally had an issue, but search their site. Granted, they may be carparing to March scopes...at 5x the price.

[19Turkeys]

I have 3 Leupolds and none have tracking problems. Plus, I have found their customer service & custom shop work to be excellent.

Steve W.

[highstandard40]

fatelvis, if it make you feel any better, the Elite line of Bushnell is what used to be "Bausch & Lomb".

[fatelvis]

That does make me feel a little warmer and fuzzier inside, thanks!

[BurmKiller]

I agree with Steve on their custom shop work. Just received a custom 3x9 with a fade paint job and other specifics for a 10/22 project and am very happy with it.

[armorpl8]

I was not being totally honest. I shot UAS smallbore with a 6-24 Trashco for a couple matches with lackluster results from the turrets. I then mounted my 3.5x10 Leupy Tactical and shot my first 40x40 turning the turrets. I trust Leupold and have heard great things about Burris but never owned one. Charlie eluded to one of the secrets of POA, your cartridge must be a laser. Simply put if your cartridge doesn't have a PBR(point blank range not pabst blue ribbon) somewhere in the 200yd range or better then you could run into a little trouble. THe shootoffs are not an issue your POA is predicated on a ram line zero and hands off the turrets during the match after a final sighter at the ram. THEORETICALLY when your 40x40 is in hand and you face the shootoffs your gun should be dead on at the ram line. BUT if you aint shootin a laser all this is a moot point and you will HAVE to find a scope you can trust I will give you another hint it ain't Barska.

[fatelvis]

I consider my 7BR pretty flat shooting (140 grn BTSP @ 2050 fps), what kind of cartridge is considered "Lazerlike"?

[highstandard40]

I consider my 7BR pretty flat shooting (140 grn BTSP @ 2050 fps), what kind of cartridge is considered "Lazerlike"?

Read Joe's post above (armorpl8) where he explains point blank range. In other words, if it is not flat enough to hit every target at every distance without holding over or under, then you need to adjust for each distance. I shot with some guys back in the 80s who tried this approach. They were redlining loads and damaging targets in their attempt. Trust me on this. Set that Elite for each distance and go for it. If the particular scope you have does not track, send it in for repairs or replace it. I have four of them on everything from a 22LR to a heavy loaded 35 Rem. They all track perfectly.

[fatelvis]

Will do, I'll go practice as soon as the snow drifts melt, and mark my turrets w/ paint dots. (I like that idea! ) Thanks-

[RockinHRacin]

Count me as a third happy Bushnell customer... I have a 3200 Trophy on my Charger (2x6 LER) and LOVE IT. I crank it down every match and then back up to chickens... I was called an "iron sights shooter" at the last match when Ron Dixon saw me do that... LOL I guess I really need to mark the turret...

[armorpl8]

what kind of cartridge is considered "Lazerlike"?

6BR, .223,.221FB, probly 6TCU. Basically anything that will hit 2350-2400fps with a heavy for caliber bullet.

[fatelvis]

Armour, will those cause target damage?

[highstandard40]

The calibers Armorp8 listed and some others can and have damaged targets, mostly the chicken which is the closest. IHMSA mandates hardened steel targets for Big Bore but not all steel is created equal. Some T1 plate has a brinell of only about 320 and can be damaged by the fast steppers. At Tusco a few years back some hotrod there broke several chickens. If you are on target setter duty at several ranges I've been to or take the time to help set up or tear down the range for a match, you will see a lot of damaged targets. I've heard the 2400fps figure thrown around but I have seen targets damaged with less velocity than that. A 150 gr 7mm bullet at 1800fps will take every target you hit.

[BillOregon]

Wish I had spent a few more bucks for the Elite, after reading this thread. Have the Trophy for the 6 TCU.

[highstandard40]

Wish I had spent a few more bucks for the Elite, after reading this thread. Have the Trophy for the 6 TCU.

Another valuable trait of the Elite vs the Trophy. The eye relief stays the same throughout the power range. 2x or 6X it stays the same.

[IHMSA80x80]

I use both the Leupold 2.5-8x and Bushnell/B&L Elite 3200/3000 2-6 scopes on my guns. Elevation is dialed in for each targets, written down the same as iron sights and I crank the turrets all day. Since UAS became legitimate, I have not had any scope tracking failures with these.

Here's a TIP for increasing eye relief on any scope. Loosen the eyepiece focusing ring and crank the bell all the way IN towards the muzzle of the gun as far as it will go, then lock down again. You will gain more eye relief and it may allow you to get the full field of view at your highest magnifications. DO IT!

[xp100]

In BB scoped, I shoot dead on at 200 meters. I hold half way up the leg of the turkeys, same with pigs, and hold at the bottom of the chicken leg. I don't like changing scopes. There is no zero and if you mess up on the number of clicks, etc, it can be a real pain finding your settings again. In open sights, I could always bottom out the rear sight and count the correct number of clicks up.
In SB scoped, I do make one ajustment. Too much bullet drop from chickens to rams. I have one setting for center rams and the other setting for center pigs. I hold on the top of the back on turkeys and low body on chickens with the pig setting. I have been doing this since scopes became a separate IHMSA class.

[armorpl8]

In BB scoped, I shoot dead on at 200 meters. I hold half way up the leg of the turkeys, same with pigs, and hold at the bottom of the chicken leg. I don't like changing scopes. There is no zero and if you mess up on the number of clicks, etc, it can be a real pain finding your settings again. In open sights, I could always bottom out the rear sight and count the correct number of clicks up.
In SB scoped, I do make one ajustment. Too much bullet drop from chickens to rams. I have one setting for center rams and the other setting for center pigs. I hold on the top of the back on turkeys and low body on chickens with the pig setting. I have been doing this since scopes became a separate IHMSA class.

Ditto on BB

[fatelvis]

In BB scoped, I shoot dead on at 200 meters. I hold half way up the leg of the turkeys, same with pigs, and hold at the bottom of the chicken leg.

What cartridge are you guys using these holds on?

[Rodent]

I have a Trophy on my .308 Savage Striker and I hold over and do not touch the elevation. I also got my first 40 with it. But, The reason that I do that is because I do not trust the repeatability if that scope. For my new 7br XP, I am mounting a 3200 Elite just so I CAN adjust for each distance.